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Minutes of the
CHAIRS/DEANS’ MEETING
On
April 16, 2002
 

IN ATTENDANCE: Trish Goudie, Greg Kegel, Janice Brady and Roger Barber.  Jan Thomson and Ann Goldhahn joined the meeting, by conference telephone, for about 20 minutes; Darlene Sellers was then “patched in”, by telephone, for the remainder of the meeting. 

ABSENT: Will Rawn. 

The meeting was called to order shortly after 9:00 a.m. in the Cowan Hall Conference Room.  The minutes of the April 9, 2002, meeting were approved without any corrections or additions. 

Continued Discussion of the Writing Proficiency Exit Requirement at MSU-Northern.  The chairs/deans continued their discussion of the writing proficiency exit requirement at MSU-Northern, since the campus is expected to submit a preliminary plan to the Montana Board of Regents in May.   

Will and his colleagues in composition had prepared an initial proposal earlier in the year, suggesting that the writing proficiency of baccalaureate students at MSU-Northern should be evaluated in the capstone courses in each degree program.  That proposal was shared with the rest of the faculty, and the feedback was generally favorable.  Some faculty, especially in the technical areas, were concerned about their ability to evaluate the writing skills of their students, however, since they do not teach composition.  Because the capstone proposal was acceptable to most faculty; and because MSU-Northern only needs a preliminary plan at this point, the chairs/deans and Roger decided to go ahead with the capstone/portfolio process. 

Joyce Scott, the deputy commissioner for academic and student affairs in the Office of the Commissioner of Higher Education, had prepared a format or template for the campus plans, and Roger shared that with Will.  Will prepared an initial draft of MSU-Northern’s writing proficiency exit proposal, using the template, and Roger distributed it to the group.  Will’s explanation of Northern’s plan is as follows: 

     MSU-Northern proposes to assess the writing proficiency of its graduating students in the capstone course required in each major. The material to be evaluated would be portfolios of written work for this course.  The primary evaluators would be faculty in the appropriate discipline. 

     Progress to date and next steps:  We have reached general agreement that it would fit the institutional mission to measure exit writing proficiency through the capstone courses; that the composition faculty will facilitate workshops on evaluating student writing to help prepare other faculty to evaluate capstone coursework in their disciplines; and that the results of assessment should be reported to the office of the dean of Arts and Sciences. 

     Our next steps should be to establish a cross-campus committee for implementation, and to plan remediation for students who may fail to meet the exit proficiency standard. 

The chairs/deans have discussed the writing proficiency exit process at MSU-Northern at several meetings.  The only part of Will’s narrative that was not part of those discussions was the last paragraph.  Greg expressed

significant concerns about the remediation process, because the capstone courses are typically completed during a student’s last semester at MSU-Northern.  If students “failed” the writing proficiency expectations of that course, Greg said, they would have a very difficult time completing some remediation process.  Most students would be at the threshold of graduation, he noted, and any remediation process should ideally be available some time before that graduation threshold. 

The group agreed to discuss remediation more completely at the next meeting.  Roger reminded them that MSU-Northern’s plan must be submitted to Joyce Scott by April 26.  Therefore, the chairs/deans would have to reach some kind of consensus on possible, final language for the writing proficiency exit plan at the April 23 meeting of the chairs/deans, Roger said. 

A Common Platform for Internet Classes.  Janice Brady, the director of extended university, came to the chairs/deans’ meeting to discuss a common “platform” for Internet classes.  MSU-Northern has no policy or directive on the issue at the present time; and the lapse causes significant problems for students and faculty.  Those problems include: 

     --confusion for students, since every Internet class could have its own procedures and personality; students, in other words, have to learn something like a new computer program for every Internet class at MSU-Northern because the institution has no common way to set up and deliver those courses;

     --faculty are “on their own” as far as working with students, because they have to learn the idiosyncrasies of the program they have adopted for their classes; based on past experience, faculty often do  not have the time. . .or the ability. . .to solve all of the problems confronted by students;

     --the staff in the computer services department does not have time to provide the necessary support for each, individual Internet class; and because faculty are free to adopt their own support system, the computer services staff is forced to learn each system with all of its quirks and differences; from a personnel perspective, that’s just not possible, and as a result, the service to both students and faculty is not good.

Jan distributed a draft policy that would designate eCollege as the platform for all Internet classes at MSU-Northern.  A common platform, and especially eCollege as the common platform, would have the following advantages for the institution, according to Jan:

     **eCollege provides both training and “Help Line” assistance for faculty who are developing an on-line course; for an additional charge, eCollege will even put the course on-line for the faculty member.  The College of Nursing has been using eCollege for at least two years to deliver its BSN program throughout Montana.  Trish said that eCollege is so “user friendly” that most faculty do not need the extraordinary services of that provider.  But if faculty are cautious about the work required for an Internet class, or if they want help in converting  their course to an Internet format, eCollege is ready to provide that service.

     **all Internet classes would have the same processes and  personality, and students would only have to learn those procedures once.  From a student perspective, the similarity between classes. . . and especially the similarity in computer commands and processes. . . would make MSU-Northern’s Internet coursework much less confusing.

     **eCollege provides around-the-clock assistance in solving technical problems, for both faculty and students. 

     **eCollege has also “computerized” the support activities that accompany academic coursework.  For instance, students could register electronically for MSU-Northern’s Internet classes, using eCollege programs; eCollege handles the creation, and security, of passwords; and so on and so on.

     **the Board of Regents has approved a $45 course fee for eCollege courses at MSU-Northern.  The course fee covers the cost of services provided by eCollege.  At this point, the institution cannot assess a course fee for Internet classes supported by other platforms.

     **Bill Leath, a staff member with the extended university at MSU-Northern, has been trained by eCollege to provide advice and assistance to faculty members.  If Northern adopted a common Internet platform,  additional staff in the computer services area could also be trained by eCollege.  That kind of campus expertise would almost certainly not be available for a smorgasbord of Internet platforms.

     **eCollege would apparently be willing to work with faculty who receive Internet versions of their textbooks; some faculty are interested in using those electronic textbooks, but they assumed that eCollege could not be the support platform, since the electronic textbook was developed by someone else.  Jan Brady said she has had several conversations with eCollege about the so-called problem, and eCollege has assured her that they can adapt other electronic courses to their format and processes. 

In discussing Jan’s proposal, the chairs/deans made the following points:

     --several chairs/deans expressed significant concerns about the current faculty collective bargaining contract, and its provisions concerning Internet classes.  Roger shared those concerns, emphasizing that the current contract makes it almost impossible for MSU-Northern to offer Internet classes because of the cost.  Since so many schools are into Internet delivery of their coursework, especially in Montana, cost is an important consideration, Roger said.  Some of the chairs/deans said that they had discussed the situation with their  faculty, and there seemed to be support for changing the contract language.

     --Darlene was concerned about tying MSU-Northern to eCollege, especially if that precluded the institution from hiring its own faculty expert in technology education.  Jan made the point that, even with such expertise on staff, it would be very hard for MSU-Northern to provide 24-hour assistance and support for faculty and students in Internet classes. 

The chairs/deans agreed to share Jan’s proposal with their faculty, and come back to a future meeting with some suggestions and direction. 

Future Meetings, Especially Over the Summer.  Roger asked the chairs/deans if it would be possible to meet over the summer months.  The group still has a long list of topics that need to be discussed, and Roger had included at least part of that list on the meeting agenda.  It included such items as: the administration of distant programs, NCATE and its upcoming visit, internal program review, pre-094 mathematics, mathematics for elementary education, and Level II paperwork for the July Board of Regents’ meeting. 

The chairs/deans said that they would be available to meet periodically during the summer.  Darlene also suggested that the group schedule a day-long session, something like a miniature retreat, to work through some of the topics on the agenda.  Other members of the group thought that was a good idea, and Roger said he would follow up on it. 

The meeting adjourned at 10:20 a.m. 

Respectfully submitted,  

Roger Barber

 

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